Sunday, July 02, 2006

Geneva Conventions are "Quaint" and "Obsolete"


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By William Fisher

7/2/06

As new reports detail further abuse by the U.S. military of its prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan, a behind-the-scenes battle is being fought between the U.S. departments of State and Defense about whether a key section of the Geneva Convention should or should not be included in new rules governing Army interrogation techniques.

The Pentagon is pushing to omit from new detainee policies a central principle of the Geneva Convention that explicitly bans "humiliating and degrading treatment." Critics say such a step that would mark a further shift away from strict adherence to international human rights standards.

The State Department is opposing the decision to exclude Geneva Convention protections and has been pushing for the Pentagon and White House to reconsider.

Meanwhile, in the face of growing criticism over U.S. treatment of detainees, Pentagon officials have decided to make public all of the military's interrogation techniques. Military leaders had previously argued that making all of the interrogation tactics public would allow enemy combatants to train and prepare for specific techniques.

The Pentagon's decision came as two previously secret Army investigative reports on prisoner abuse were released to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) under a Freedom of Information request.

The more than 1,000 pages turned over to the ACLU include one report by Army Brig. Gen. Richard Formica on specials operations forces in Iraq and another by Brig. Gen. Charles Jacoby on Afghanistan detainees.

The Formica report reviewed only three allegations of abuse by special operations forces, but found that Iraqi detainees were held for up to seven days at a time with their eyes taped shut in tiny box-like cells so small that they had to sit with their knees to their chests while loud music blared, and detainees were fed only bread and water for up to a week.

One of the detainees said he was kept inside his tiny cell for two days, another for five days, and the third for seven days. The one kept for seven days alleged, " before he was placed in the box his clothes were cut off. He said that while held in the box, his captors duct-taped his mouth and nose, making it hard for him to breath." He charged that water was thrown on him, that he was beaten, kicked and electrocuted.

Formica concluded that overall conditions "did not comport with the spirit of the principles set forth in the Geneva Conventions," but dismissed allegations that prisoners were physically abused or humiliated. The general recommended no disciplinary action against any U.S. special operations personnel.

Formica faulted "inadequate policy guidance" rather than "personal failure" for the mistreatment, and cited the dangerous environment in which Special Operations forces carried out their counterinsurgency missions. He said that, from his observations, none of the detainees seemed to be the worse for wear because of the treatment.

The Jacoby report, carried out in May 2004, examined the treatment of detainees at facilities in Afghanistan. He found "no systematic or widespread mistreatment of detainees," but concluded that the opportunities for mistreatment and the ever-changing battlefield there demanded changes in procedures.

He said that there was "a consistent lack of knowledge" regarding the capture, processing, detention and interrogation of detainees and that policies varied at facilities across the country. Jacoby also concluded that the lack of clear standards created opportunities for abuse and impeded efforts to gain timely intelligence and that interrogation standards were "inconsistent and unevenly applied."

The U.S. military facility at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan has come in for particular criticism for its detention practices, including keeping "ghost" prisoners whose presence is unrecorded, and denying access to prisoners by the International Committee of the Red Cross and the United Nations International Rapporteur.

Neither report recommended punishment of any military personnel.

Human rights groups were critical of the reports. Reed Brody, special counsel to Human Rights Watch, told IPS, "At long last, it is time for the administration to ask itself whether the humiliation, brutalization, and torture of Muslim detainees around the world is making us safer from terrorism or is in fact fanning the flames of resentment and making it easier for the jihadists to find recruits for their evil cause." And Amrit Singh, an ACLU attorney, said, "Both the Formica and the Jacoby report demonstrate that the government is really not taking the investigation of detainee abuse seriously," She called the reports "a whitewash" and questioned why they only focused on a limited number of incidents, adding that there have been numerous documents showing that special operations forces abused detainees, and yet Formica only reviewed a few cases.

The reports were released as the military grappled with new allegations of war crimes in Iraq. Two Pennsylvania National Guardsmen were charged with killing an unarmed Iraqi man in Anbar province. Seven Marines and a Navy corpsman were charged in the shooting death of an Iraqi man in the town of Hamdania. And three soldiers and a noncommissioned officer were charged in the deaths of three unarmed Iraqis in military custody in Salahuddin province.

These charges follow allegations that in Haditha, a town in Anbar province, members of a Marine unit killed up to two dozen unarmed Iraqis in and outside their homes after a roadside bomb killed one of the troops.

The Bush administration has been criticized internationally, including by U.S. allies, for abusive treatment of terror war detainees.

The military's treatment of detainees has been under increased scrutiny since the Abu Ghraib prisoner scandal in Iraq was revealed two years ago. Photographs made public at that time showed U.S. troops beating, intimidating and sexually abusing prisoners.

Human rights groups have also called for the Bush administration to close the detention center at the U.S. naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where three detainees recently committed suicide. Over the past weekend, 16 Saudi Arabian detainees were released to the government of their home country, continuing the Bush Administration's policy of gradually repatriating prisoners, either to freedom or for further custody by their home governments.

President Bush recently acknowledged that he would like to close the controversial prison at Guantanamo. He said the military is working to ensure that detainees released to their home countries are not subjected to torture in detention. It is believed there are now just under 500 prisoners being held at the facility in Cuba. Only ten have been formally charged with any crime and none has been tried. .

Late last year, the U.S. Congress passed an anti-torture amendment championed by Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican who was held and tortured in a North Vietnamese prison for years. McCain, along South Carolina Republican Senator Lindsey Graham - a former military judge - pressed Congress to establish the Army Field Manual as the standard for treatment of all detainees.

The administration of President George W. Bush initially opposed the amendment, but the measure passed and became law. However, in signing the law, Bush appended a statement saying, in effect, that he had the authority to over-ride it under a variety of circumstances involving military necessity and national security.

In 2002, Bush issued an executive order that suspended parts of the Geneva Convention for captured Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters. Bush's order superseded military policy at the time. Since then, U.S. obligations under the Convention have been the subject of an intense debate that became even more intense following reports of detainee abuses at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.

The detention and treatment of U.S. detainees is clearly an issue that isn't going away any time soon. It has underlined the incompetence of the Bush Administration to craft a policy that is both effective and legal, and that failing has drawn scorn much many nations that have traditionally been America's friends and allies - and whom America needs now more than ever.

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19 comments:

Anonymous said...

This administration has a problem dealing with any restraint. The gov't constantly violates the Constitution by stealing land (Kelo decision), caging protesors (1st Amendment), pressuring book outlets like Amazon to stop stocking the book "America Deceived" by E.A. Blayre III, and illegally wire-tapping all phones without a warrant (4th Amendment). Why would they follow the Geneva conventions when they don't even follow the Constitution?
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Anonymous said...

Will George W. ever see the insides of The Hague prison while undergoing the trial, like his puppets from the Balkans and Rwanda? Someone report him to Karla Del Ponte.

Anonymous said...

Why are we surprised that the US does not adhere to the rules of the Geneva Convention? Gen. Eisenhower ignored them at the end of WWII, when he declared captured German prisoners of war as "Disarmed Enemy Forces". Hundreds of thousands were kept in open air enclosures or pens, with not shelter, food, or medical attention. International Red Cross personnel were denied entry, food shipments from civilan groups were refused and returned, local citizens were prohibited from supplying food on pain of death. Hundreds of thousands (approaching millions) of these soldiers died in captivity or shipped to Russia as slave laborers in that coun try's infamous gulags.

In contrast, Allied prisoners in German prison of war camps, were regularly visited by the Red Cross, who often maintained offices at the camps. More than 90% of Allied prisoners were released. Millions of Germans died.

What a legacy. What shame. We should hang our heads.

In contrast

Anonymous said...

Hang your heads in shame on the 4th of July.

A proud Canadian.

Anonymous said...

Amerikwa Sucks!!! The world's dumbest nation of savage beasts, 3rd world monkeys dwelling in 1st world infrastructure!

You can't live off your parent's legacy forever, dumbasses! One day soon the electrical grid is going to go down and stay down, because there isn't anybody smart enough left to fix it.

Counting the days until the entire country is peppered with mushroom clouds from sea to sea. Won't be much longer for the Amerikwan Empire.

Anonymous said...

The Geneva Convention was created by European power to be ignored during their own attacks and then used against defeated foes who in many cases followed the rules more closely. Britain was big in doing this, trying to shame the nations it fought while at the same time breaking all the rules in the book. Lucky for English speaking nations they always won and got to rewrite the history that actually took place. They were always the good guys and their foes are always crimminals. Such conventions mean little and likely just prolong wars and in the end make war more palitable and thus more likely to happen again. Had Britain and Germany used poison gas dropped planes its doubtful that WWII would have lasted 5 years. If wars were fought as dirty as possible its doubtful nations like the USA could drum up all the silly support they have for starting new wars.

If you recall the recent wars in the Bulkans we see cases where conflict in that region would likely have ended much sooner, and, likely have generated less hatred and thus bloodshed, had the Western powers not been trucking in supplies to make sure both sides remained equal. Think how long WWI would have lasted had some great force from outerspace had come down to supply Germany with just enough food and materials to continue the war in a stalemate. That war would have lasted for 40 years, killing 3 times the number of people and generating even greater hatreds. I agree with General Sherman, “War is Hell” and it should always remain thus. One thing is certain – the Third World nations quickly realize that the rules are only ever used AGAINST THEM by the great powers, and NEVER FOR THEM.

Raina said...

To the obviously YOUNG and unobservant individual that writes of "abuses" of German P.O.W.s at the end of W.W. II, as much as it pains me to live in this pseudo-facist "Republik" one need not "repackage" history to suit one's need to point out Current and REAL abuses! First; I would ask that you actually READ a history book, or if that is'nt possible for some reason (pc gaming) or some other "electronic carrot" please check out the history channel or something other than your friends opinions for historical fact! Secondly; General Eisenhower RE-ARMED Many of those troops to keep order,because until 1947 there was a huge problem with "terrorist'- like attacks by nazis that would NOT quit! oh as to the "open-air pens" yes they existed as temporary holding areas,needed because of the immense numbers of surrendering troops that were trying to stay out of SOVIET hands (let me ask wise guy, what would YOU do with over a million people suddenly dependant on less than a quarter of that number? oh yeah and those Germans that Died, or were never heard of again? look to the Soviet Union!almost ALL of the troops taken prisoner by the soviet army NEVER CAME HOME! oh! one more thing You obviously never heard your grandparents or parents speak of these things and I'm Betting had revisionist teachers in school,as well as it seems no personal involvement in any type of actual fact based learning so I will be very precise; WW 2 was not "Bush's War" "Bush's War" is has no goal other than Wealth accumulation for those that dont Need wealth! Bush's War is about subjugation and greed. I do not think it nessasary to twist the past to draw a line to the horrors that are being perpetuated in our names! I have over twenty elder relatives who served in WW 2, several of whom were Prisoners of the Germans my ex-wife's father was shot down in 1943 and it took til1949 before he could be considered well enough to go home I should think he and a few others may disagree with your opinion of how well the germans treated them on a general basis. You speak of "legacy" up until This "Individual" occupied the White House, I have always believed that the legacy of this country belonged to its' PEOPLE! not its government! so are you part of the government? or part of the people? I think that if you check, you might find a HUGE divide between A Country and its GOVERNMENT! This president inspires a LOT of passion! mainly 'cuz he's nuts! but he, and those like him are why Thomas Jefferson wrote the constitution so that our"legacy" would not be stolen by the "w"s of the world! geez dude! check your facts o.k.?

Fut in the Hat said...

Raina - you really need to read Other Losses by James Bacque - your passions concerning the bush Presidency are Smack-On - but ther is no utility in ignoring America's criminal past.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1551681919/002-1711561-5536029?v=glance&n=283155
David

Anonymous said...

Thank you, David, for requesting that Raina read "Other Losses"; Raina, Eisenhower was actually following the Morganthau Plan for exterminating Germany, as promoted by our dear FDR, whom with Winnie,sold out the world to dear, dear Uncle Joe (as FDR referred to him). And, Raina, where do you get YOUR info? Probably from the Revisionist American school system?

david said...

Yes, Raina, it's you who needs the history lesson. These conditions you describe as temporary lasted for several years. Why weren't buildings built to house these prisoners when timber wasn't in short supply. Why was much needed food and medical supplies offered forfree by the Red Cross and Catholic church, among others, refused? Certainly at the end of WW2 the US had plenty of resources, particularly financial, to provide for the basic needs of these POWs and German civilians but instead pursued a course which they knew would result in the deaths of millions of innocents, Whether they were following Morgenthau's hideously racist genocidal policy of "Pasturalization" as some have suggested or merely hording resources for profiteering purposes I don't know. Nevertheless, it was cold, calculated mass murder on a massive scale.

Incidentally, those terror attacks you refer to were carried out by American intelligence operatives under the supervision of the Dulles brothers as part of the notoriouis "Stay-behind" program callede Gladio.

And anybody who thinks the American school system is revisionist in any way least of all in a pro-Nazi way knows nothing, NOTHING about America these days.

Best of luck with your much needed education Raina.

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